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Guus der Kinderen<p>It’s time for real interoperability. Let’s make it happen.</p><p>The <a href="https://toot.igniterealtime.org/tags/DMA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DMA</span></a> targets walled gardens and messaging interoperability. Meta, the designated gatekeeper, offers an solution that falls short of its goals.</p><p>The XMPP Standards Foundation (<span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@xmpp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>xmpp</span></a></span>) publishes an Open Letter to Meta, to advocate for adoption of <a href="https://toot.igniterealtime.org/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a> for messaging interoperability.</p><p>The letter: <a href="https://xmpp.org/announcements/open-letter-meta-dma/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">xmpp.org/announcements/open-le</span><span class="invisible">tter-meta-dma/</span></a></p><p>Technical briefing: <a href="https://xmpp.org/announcements/open-letter-meta-dma/technical-briefing/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">xmpp.org/announcements/open-le</span><span class="invisible">tter-meta-dma/technical-briefing/</span></a></p><p>The corresponding blog post: <a href="https://xmpp.org/2025/03/open-letter-to-meta-support-true-messaging-interoperability-with-xmpp/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">xmpp.org/2025/03/open-letter-t</span><span class="invisible">o-meta-support-true-messaging-interoperability-with-xmpp/</span></a></p>
XSF: XMPP Standards Foundation<p><a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/XSF" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>XSF</span></a> Announcement</p><p>Today the <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a> Standards Foundation publishes an Open Letter to urge <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/Meta" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Meta</span></a> to adopt XMPP for messaging <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/interoperability" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>interoperability</span></a>.</p><p>It’s time for real interoperability. Let’s make it happen.</p><p><a href="https://xmpp.org/announcements/open-letter-meta-dma/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">xmpp.org/announcements/open-le</span><span class="invisible">tter-meta-dma/</span></a></p><p><a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>jabber</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/chat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>chat</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/rtc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>rtc</span></a><br><a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/opensource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>opensource</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/decentralization" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>decentralization</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/standard" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>standard</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/dma" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>dma</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:Rant re: Signal Shills being dangerous Tech Illiterates
Stupeflo 🕯️<p>Si il y-a des gens qui veulent entrer en contact avec moi via XMPP, mes DM sont ouverts pour que je vous passe mon <del>JID</del> adresse.</p><p><a href="https://pipou.academy/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a></p>
erebion<p>It's fine to say "I don't like its architecture."</p><p>That is a perfectly valid point.</p><p>Spreading misinformation like "Centralised services cannot be secure" is not okay.</p><p>You can dislike things without slipping into pseudo-arguments.</p><p>Just say "I don't like $thing."</p><p>The world won't end if you dislike something without having arguments as to why you dislike it.</p><p>I don't like centralisation a whole lot myself, but that does not make it insecure.</p><p><a href="https://chaos.social/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a></p>
erebion<p>I really like using <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>, but the XMPP fans claiming "Signal isn't secure because it's centralised" are annoying.</p><p>It's like saying "Potatoes are not vegetables because they contain starch, just like noodles". It makes NO sense to say that.</p><p>Centralised services can be very secure, they just have different issues. Censorship could occur, for example, also downtimes.</p><p>And that coming from people often claiming that verifying fingerprints is "unnecessary" because "XMPP is secure".</p><p>What the hell?</p>
codeDude :archlinux: :neovim:<p>Me di cuenta que este vídeo fue borrado de youtube, pero alguien lo resubio a <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/peertube" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>peertube</span></a> <br><a href="https://video.asgardius.company/videos/watch/29c7f7f7-5b2d-4b69-9a7c-21114c2664b8" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">video.asgardius.company/videos</span><span class="invisible">/watch/29c7f7f7-5b2d-4b69-9a7c-21114c2664b8</span></a></p><p>El vídeo habla sobre el <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/EEE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EEE</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/fediverso" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>fediverso</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/mastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>mastodon</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/Threads" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Threads</span></a> y <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/xmpp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>xmpp</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>jabber</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@walkinglampshade" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>walkinglampshade</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@jrredho" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>jrredho</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@fj" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>fj</span></a></span> It's basic <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/InfoSec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>InfoSec</span></a>, really:</p><ul><li><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> has no <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LegitimateInterest" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LegitimateInterest</span></a>"</em> to demand <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PII" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PII</span></a> like a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PhoneNumber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PhoneNumber</span></a> and they use and abuse that to restrict functionality of their App (it doesn't matter that they merely claim <em>"comply with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/sanctions" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>sanctions</span></a>"</em> [their <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MobileCoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MobileCoin</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Shitcoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Shitcoin</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Scam" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Scam</span></a> disqalifies them even more!] because they have the tech to distinguish and discriminate users)...</li></ul><p>Thus <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> fails at protevting <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Journalists" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Journalists</span></a> <em>and</em> theor sources because they do have that data and can be <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/subopena" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>subopena</span></a>'d for it if they don't already provide <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BulkSurveillance" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>BulkSurveillance</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LawfulInterception" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LawfulInterception</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/API" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>API</span></a>|s to comply with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CloudAct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CloudAct</span></a>. (Or are you guys so naive and believe <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@Mer__edith" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>Mer__edith</span></a></span> will risk <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20210606070919/twitter.com/thegrugq/status/1085614812581715968" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">dying of old age in jail for non-paying users?</a>)</p><ul><li>This entire <em>"thread vector"</em> just doesn't exist with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> nor <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PGP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PGP</span></a>/MIME! </li></ul><p>And if you believe <em>"this won't ne used/abused me because I'm from 'Murica!"</em> and point at <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AN%C3%98M" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ANØM</span></a> as an example, then you really ignored all tze <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Cyberfacism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Cyberfacism</span></a> since 9/11…</p>
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@fj I still think @signalapp has fundamental flaws like demanding #PII (#PhoneNumbers can't be obtained anonymously around the globe and are trivial to track down to devices and thus users), being subject to #CloudAct as an unnecessary & 100% avoidable risk as well as #Shitcoin-#Scam shilling (#MobileCoin) and it's #proprietary, #SingleVendor & #SingleProvider nature that makes it inferior to real #E2EE with #SelfCustody like #PGP/MIME & #XMPP+#OMEMO!

Una cosa te digo: sería mucho más fácil traerse a la gente a #XMPP si los clientes tuvieran unas interfaces bonicas en lugar de ciertos truñacos que asustan nada más abrirlos y les hacen correr de vuelta a guasap.

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@Anarcat

I'm not a huge fan of "individual #selfHosting", but prefer "#community self-hosting". Because of #lorryFactor and danger of overwork. Self-hosting for ones family has additional risks, given that some families are dangerous places.

I'm co-maintaining the #Jabber server of the local #Berlin Internet club we founded in 1995 🙂

We give people a free and federated alternative to closed silos such as Whatsapp or Signal.

Tient, Discord ajoute de la publicité vidéo en juin dans son client (oui prévisible, on l'avait prévu depuis 2015) …

Du coup, pour les personnes qui seraient intéressées de migrer vers autre chose pour vos famille, vos groupe de potes, vos asso, etc…
Ceci est le rappel sur : N'hésitez pas à venir me demander conseils à propos de XMPP.

Idem si vous avez besoin d'accompagnement, de mise en place, des questions, etc.

Vous pouvez me contacter ici, ou par mail, ou par XMPP.

Et le retoot est bienvenue !

#Discord #XMPP

Getting started with XMPP/Jabber and PGP for federated, encrypted messaging

This is a short thread where I explain how I started using the XMPP protocol and PGP encryption for secure messaging. I am not a security expert, but I am a mathematician and I am confortable with the Linux command line. This guide is for people who want to use PGP for secure messaging easily. You will need to be okay with typing commands into the Linux command line in order to do this, but I will tell you exactly what to enter.

Part 1: XMPP

Mastodon is like email, but for social media. You sign up for an account with a server, and then you can talk with any other accounts that are signed up on other servers, as long as your servers are getting along. (No one wants emails from the sketchy spam server, and we want to be able to choose between Yahoo, Gmail, etc.) XMPP (a.k.a. Jabber) is the same thing for text messaging.

Just like signing up for an email/Mastodon account, you need to sign up for an account. You can find a list of servers at list.jabber.at/ and will probably at least need to provide an email addess when making an account.

Once you have made an account, you need a client. On Linux, I've been having a good time using Dino (dino.im/). You can then enter your account name and password to log into your XMPP account and start chatting! There are both public rooms and you can also message directly with your friends.

#security #PGP #XMPP #FOSS #Jabber #Dino #MonoclesChat

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En ces périodes incertaines, si vous cherchez une messagerie instantanée complète mais éthique et respectueuse de votre vie privée, pensez aux solutions décentralisées dans le même esprit que le fédiverse : XMPP !

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